Comments on: I Didn’t Watch the Nye/Ham Debate. Here’s Why: https://www.chrismorton.info/2014/02/05/i-didnt-watch-the-nyeham-debate-heres-why/ Growth and Mission Mon, 24 Oct 2016 18:04:09 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.4.32 By: timoteostewart https://www.chrismorton.info/2014/02/05/i-didnt-watch-the-nyeham-debate-heres-why/#comment-9672 Wed, 05 Feb 2014 18:21:27 +0000 http://www.chrismorton.info/?p=5394#comment-9672 ChrisMorton82 timoteostewart  I would only add that asking where the universe came from and whether there was a God responsible for it is very much a human conversation, and not a conversation just for Christians or just for agnostics and atheists.

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By: ChrisMorton82 https://www.chrismorton.info/2014/02/05/i-didnt-watch-the-nyeham-debate-heres-why/#comment-9671 Wed, 05 Feb 2014 18:04:44 +0000 http://www.chrismorton.info/?p=5394#comment-9671 timoteostewart  We have to redefine what is a “family conversation” and what is a public conversation. In “Churchville” when we can assume that everyone is, in some sense a “Christian,” there was no need for such differentiation. However, as a minority with the goal of helping people live like Jesus, we have to put thought and prayer into what we lead with.

Let’s wrestle with what the church believes, and how the church should act within the church.

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By: timoteostewart https://www.chrismorton.info/2014/02/05/i-didnt-watch-the-nyeham-debate-heres-why/#comment-9670 Wed, 05 Feb 2014 17:51:35 +0000 http://www.chrismorton.info/?p=5394#comment-9670 I think these conversations (or, in this case, a structured debate) about the origins of the universe are well within the scope of both science and religion. It makes sense for those two camps to come together and talk about what they agree on and what they disagree on. I especially like it when we conduct those conversations in a careful, planned, courteous way, such as when expert representatives from the different sides come together and conduct a debate. I prefer that over thousands of mean-spirited, petty, argumentative miniature debates occurring all over the blogs and message forums. In fact, having each side send one of its very best is quite biblical: think about David and Goliath. Rather than spill the blood of thousands on the field of battle, the two sides agreed in a one-on-one, with the winner of that contest determining the winner of the battle.

What science and religion are asking is “Where did the universe come from? How did it come to be here?” Science wants to say that the universe exists because of impersonal forces that have no love or compassion for mankind. Religion says that God made the universe and that God loves everyone and everything that he made. Science says that qualities such as love and morality are relative in scope and are a product of human ingenuity. Religion says that love preceded humankind itself, because God is (in a mysterious way!) a living expression of Love. Religion also says that moral qualities such as good and evil aren’t for humankind to decide, but have been decided ahead of time by God and aren’t subject to redefinition.

I think it’s fair that some Christians don’t feel “called” (to use a churchy word) to apologetics and to this kind of direct engagement with science and atheism. That’s perfectly O.K. There are many, many ways for the Body of Christ to participate in God’s mission on the earth. Apologetics is just one way. Chris, it’s obvious that you feel called to engage with the popular culture of the world and to reach out especially to those people who have a bad taste in their mouth from the misbehavior of Christians they have known. That’s O.K. too. We need apologeticists, and we also need cross-cultural missionaries. We are many parts, but we are all one Body.

Asking the deep, old questions of where the universe came from and whether there was a person behind it all or whether we are alone in the universe is a crucially important question. I think we have to be fair to our brothers and sisters who feel called to participate in that debate and not dismiss their calling as irrelevant or damaging.

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